Friday, June 24, 2011
Lacking divine proportion
Void of symmetry
who needs a garden
when you've a flat screen TV
and gardening shows
cannot find my house
stuck between value and reality
sleeping on the lawn
taking on water
we sink in a sea of debt
no bailout for us
sculpt our utopian yard,
I never go there.
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asphalt and concrete
the drone of cicadas
a pitiless sun
Roll up Roll up, who
Will buy my lovely McMansion
Any bid will start
Hey Nobs, I guess you didn't know what to make of the Tarr picture I sent you :-)
the new face of the
land, gone are the green fields and
compact life, school and
the shops down the road within
a walking distance
Lacking divine proportion
Void of symmetry
Blame the artist / dreamer in me:) but I think all future cities should be built around the ideas and concepts of Roger Dean :)Using eco friendly earth-bags :)
Destiny! Long time no see. Roger Dean - there's a blast from the past. And I'd be happy to live like that, as long as I didn't have to listen to Yes all day. Otherwise, how are you?
Hello Judge, have you been in before? I can't recall. Regardless, lovely to have you. Nice effort but don't forget that each line should try to be a stand-alone clause or phrase, if you know what I mean.
Hey FB, the Tarr picture? Was that the one with a person's face and a something or other? B&W? In the end that defeated me that pic. I suspect it possesses meaning if you know what it is but if you don't it's a bit of a head scratcher. Consider mine well scratched. Sorry mate!
Hmm... Roger Dean... he might be the ticket for next week's effort. Could be interesting...
Rooves reflecting moods
Daybreak, midday, late evening
Light and perception.
Cascading forms and
Shadows, a collage, reverie
:-) Hey Nobs, I thought that someone with a cinema blog might be up with what's going on in Europe and not just Hollywood vs the Far East, so I thought that a bit of enlightenment might help cure the scratch wounds to your head. The guy doing the looking is Janos and the something or other he is looking into is the eye of a stuffed whale. Not an everyday occurrence I will grant you but why is he doing it? Maybe the answer is here – or maybe not, it is so hard to say with art films that are open to interpretation.
Change the filter from Best to Chronological and you will have my thoughts.
We have done everything from modern art through normal to ink blot tests so I thought a bit of weird might stimulate the grey matter but it's too late now.
Incidentally, if you click on my name you will come across a review of a Japanese film I did recently, albeit a very old film (-:
Thanks matey, Is that what it was? And otherwise, you see what I mean? It makes sense if you know it's a whale's eye. Otherwise, it's just a stumper.
And Twenty Four Eyes. Weirdly enough I bought that in China last time I was there but haven't gotten around to watching it yet. Kinoshita is someone I don't know enough about. All I've seen is Ballad of Narayama. As for European film, I just have a bluffer's knowledge. I know who all the directors are, have seen a couple of each of their films, but the only one I like (and have seen a lot of) is Fellini. I just seem unable to get into French, German, Swedish, and Russian film makers. Too much time in Asia I expect.
Oh! Is P2P hanging about? I saw Aki Kaurasmaki's The Man Without a Past the other day and and it knocked me out. I should chase him up.
The new face of life
The land, gone, the green fields, gone
And the forests - gone
How compact life is
School, the mall, down the road
A walking distance
Doesn't have the same effect
free to be the same
still just a rat in a cage
but mine is bigger
where truth dies, life goes askew
please, just one more pill
what was the piece of music that was the last haiku subject?
P2P keeps connecting people, or well, did I mention kaurismäki somewhere in the blogsphere? my favorite from him is calamari union, not the least because I, like the franks, do the pilgrimage away from kallio over and over again... though I tend to head west whereas they headed south.
in general euro flicks tend to be nothing but pretentious. I can't think of anything to recommend but lilja 4-ever by swede lukas moodysson, christiane f. - wir kinder vom bahnhof zoo by german uli edel, and gomorra by italian matteo garrone. the latter is actually quite funny whereas lilja and christiane are truly fucked up kids, characters, who'll break your heart.
Otherwise, how are you?
Sadly : ( stressed and overworked but for the most part I can't complain :) Hope things have been good with you :)
Big tree in small street
Or small tree in a forest
There is no contest
Why do I think I have to throw a haiku in just to take part in the ongoing? Dunno, beats me. European films? We did kinda move on from David Niven and the Carry On lot. Nobs, in your list of countries whose films you don't like, you didn't mention Poland or maybe you didn't think they were worth a mention. Stanley Krubeck however described Krzysztof Kieslowski's Dekalog as the only true master work he had seen in his lifetime. I have seen other good stuff too but this is amongst the best IMO. As is almost anything by Andrei Tarkovski. If being involved in the film and interpreting what it has to say as opposed to being a voyeur to the unfolding of the storyline is your bag then it doesn't come much better than Bella Tarr. There again an almost eight hour long movie in glorious black and white, spoken in Magyar (Hungarian) with English under text where there is very little action in the conventional sense is only for the very brave. The Dukes of Hazard it is not.
In truth you call them as you see them and if you don't like them then you don't like them. In my view there is more drama between a man who has brought a woman up as his daughter and what they do with the feelings that exist between them when they find out they are not related. Or a Jewish woman who confronts a Christian in later life when the Christian hid behind some religious text so they would not be caught by the Gestapo for protecting the child. Maybe this sound naff in the bare bones outline but to me it is higher drama than a warrior chopping some unfortunate in half just to try out his new sword. Anyway, I just think you should check a few things out before you confine it all to the junk bin.
Btw, do you guys still see the thrills and spills of watching Lucky Grills playing Bluey Hills?
Destiny, mustn't grumble but be aware of creeping burnout.
P2P The Franks tend not to go over-much on the Brits, they are a bit snooty and get pissed when we keep winning wars for them ;-) I am going to check out your DVD recommends in the central library, I have seven picks left on my ticket and twenty on my wife's so if they are there I will have them, otherwise it is Fnac. Btw, when do you hit Rotterdam?
I am not sure we speak about the same franks - I love this description of calamari union from wikipedia because it is so amusingly accurate:
"The movie tells a story about sixteen men, fifteen of them named Frank and one Pekka. They decide to move to Eira, from Kallio (both districts of Helsinki, Finland). Unfortunately, they all get killed, or married, or end up to work during their trip."
I met the friend who I am supposed to do the driving with a month ago or so when he returned from a trip to krakow to see his brother. he had visited prague for the first time in his life during that visit and went on to suggest that we'd move there instead of rotterdam (he had found there a guy who had promised to teach him how to become a sword master and all other epic things I fully understand). prague for me has been a promised land for years - majority of czechs are atheists, saint vitus is my absolute favorite church, beer and absinth and weed are cheap and of great quality, and plus when considering my future, "satan" is quite common last name there (it means satan in their language, too.), so I would have a chance to marry myself into a noble family name. seriously speaking I've always been into ex-soviet countries, because still at this time there is a sense of liberation in the air in most of them and the people have a very good understanding on how to lead their lives, whereas in scandinavia, west europe and some bit in the south too I tend to feel myself as an outsider looking at the people who're a bit too ignorant in the face of "power structures." I have also truly loved to find clubs around the baltic countries, poland and well I guess I could count berlin in too, where the people are still after almost twenty years crazy about "eurodance" which was the first thing that truly hit them about the culture that rolled over the remains of soviet union in the beginning of the nineties. people party like boris jeltsin. I simply love it.
our departure also got delayed by a month or two because I got a job as a "broker assistant" which means I will be spending the rest of the summer of helsinki in an office. but, it doesn't really matter that much because the sun really doesn't set here - it shines outside of office hours, too.
to return the great beer offer, and to spread it to include all great haiku masters, I will promise to be the best tour guide to bars and such if anyone of you would ever wind up in prague.
Sorry boys and girls! I've been on the road again - up in Sydney dealing with probate. Very tiresome. Interesting chat here.
First (and thanks John for reminding me) that last piece was a soundtrack written by Ryuichi Sakamoto for a film called Poppoya aka The Railroad Man. I haven't seen it of course but I shall, if for no other reason than for the soundtrack.
And whoopsadaisy, there doesn't seem to be any swordplay in it! What's going on FB? Actually, I do confess to an affinity for visceral movies, ie. that variety of film where things crash into each other. I grew up on Doug McClure battling giant scorpions and that sort of thing so you can hardly blame me. By the same token, I'm not anti European movies. I've watched tons of them and enjoyed them. It's just that my head isn't in Europe. It's in Asia.
I should also say that not all Asian movies have swordplay. In Japan alone, sure there's Kurosawa, but the majority of his movies were simple dramas. Besides which the other pillars of Japanese cinema, Ozu, Ichikawa, Mizoguchi did very little action. Ozu, none, now that I think about it.
Lately my favourite movie is a Japanese thing called Okuribito, aka Departures. Has anyone seen it? It's absolutely fantastic and no one chops anyone's arm off.
P! Thanks for the link to Calamari Union. What a laugh! I have to see it. Shades of Jim Jarmusch, of whom I'm a big fan (except for Ghost Samurai, which was awful - and yep, the irony runs rampant). Anyway I can see a Kaurismäki binge coming on.
And thanks for the invite. Clubs, is it? Ayah, so youthful! I don't know about anyone else but I'm old you know. Too old for noisy nighclubs full of strangers. I done all that and now I like to go to bed at 9.30, ha ha. And then up early to watch the sun come up. But don't mind me, you kids run along and have fun now. Do lots of things that I wouldn't do. Hell, live dangerously - stay up until ten! You're only young once after all. I certainly was.
PS. That Calamari Union entry on wikipedia bugged me with its spotty second-language grammar and syntax so I thought I'd give it a polish. But then I couldn't help myself and ended up rewriting it. And this in spite of the fact that I haven't seen the movie, ha! The nerve of me...
P, Can you have a read and if I've gotten anything wrong, do tell me and I'll sort it out. Or you can sort it out. Or we can go back to the original or something. Whichever.
Oh, and Tony, is that yourself? Very good.
And Destiny. Well it is Winter... in Canberra...
back to the haiku...
who needs a garden
when you've a flat screen TV
and gardening shows
I am flat out of haiku's for the moment so I will just carry on with the ongoing. Sorry Nobs, I thought you were junking everything that came out of Europe, verbal inflections are difficult in the written word that is why I went OTT with the swordplay ;-) It was all a bit of harmless fun poking nothing serious intended and again verbal inflections in the written word. I guess in truth we all try to keep up with each others cultures even though we have our own preferences. I recently saw Kurosawa's Ikiuru and there wasn't a bit of swordplay in it. I know these are old movies and directors were learning their craft as they went along but I find such offerings rather simplistic in their outlook even they are enjoyable overall. Yeh, and I had a pop at Bluey didn't I :-) There was a DJ in the day, on Radio Merseyside in the UK that called Bluey fit to burn until Lucky Grills agreed to an interview with him and then he was as nice as pie to his face, what a turncoat. Lucky said to him “ I know the overall direction and production quality is not up to modern standards but filming is a fairly new industry in Oz and we haven't at the moment got the experience that Hollywood has but we are learning it as we go along and people have to accept that”. I considered the DJ well put down.
P, I guess I am not paying attention lately what with getting all bogged down in which part of the world makes the best movies, as if it really matters. What is important is what appeals to you the most. Then this business with the franks, oh dear. It reminded me though of a time long ago, I was night man in a hotel and occasionally fell to drinking with the guests who wouldn't go to bed. A plane got grounded at the local airport and the airline did their usual ringing round the hotels to see how many passengers we could take. I finished up with a group of four men all called Brendan and a woman who wasn't. That was one bizarre conversation as I recall. I would probably never thought about that again if you hadn't mentioned about the franks.
Praag has been top of my list too for quite some time. Wifey bought me a touristy book about it earlier this year. I will pass my e mail address over to you then if you get settled there I will do a city trip and we will sink a few. Providing, that is you won't be embarrassed drinking with someone who was doing what you are doing now only when the Beatles were trying to get famous. Also providing Europe still has an economy by then. For what it is worth, my favourite Trappist beers are Leffe blond and Ciney blond. Sure would like to try out what the home of Pilsner has to offer.
I think I might have to tell on you to my country mates because you have seriously stepped on our second-language toes. representing,
"P, I guess I am not paying attention lately what with getting all bogged down in which part of the world makes the best movies, as if it really matters. What is important is what appeals to you the most."
and I agree. my taste in movies in varied like in all arts, and mainly based on the sense I get from a given piece of "work." people are amazing in being able to reflect themselves as creators in so many genres. I especially respect people who know how to blow their sense of humor to a coherent unrepeatable whole in the material world. my favorite camp movie is the toxic avenger. I also like the toxic avanger part II, which would, I'm sure, also amuse you japan fans for having the best movie scene of the eighties right there when the toxic avenger surfs from america to japan to find his father. from the east coast, to be exact.
I really don't get embarrassed over anything, and if I should get embarrassed it would first and foremost be my sense of humor which I present quite loudly. thankfully, it is the sort of a gag that works best in a bar, where people are expected to be raving about things they otherwise shut up about. for some reason I was born with a head that basically records everything in my surroundings, so I have built up my very own opinions about things outside of my lived experience, including past decades. so no matter what subject, I have a piece of the map on my hand. beatles had interesting ties to the spread of twisted eastern philosophies to europe (I point especially at their relationship with maharishi mahesh yogi here), which, of course, can be seen as a direct continuation of the process that nazis took part of when spreading a holy war based largely on mythologies tied to hinduism to a continent on the other side of the planet from the birthplace of such ideas. am I serious? nah, but when I speak my mind irl I present myself as if I was. it is a good way to wake people up and have a laugh over my proud social idiocy.
do you already have government there in belgium? I find it very amusing that our shared president comes from a country that has recently broken the world record of "the longest time without government." I am sure the "economy" of europe will be there in the future, especially in the east because I bet people have remembered to take precautions in the case of, as an example, monetary collapse. I think it is funny that germany has saved all their marks whereas finland destroyed all theirs immediately after we switched to euro. what a bunch of fools we are. I guess that is why even drug dealers here are switching to bitcoin.
I try to make up all the ramble by trying,
cannot find my house
stuck between value and reality
sleeping on the lawn
Hi P, I didn't know your pres was Belgian, well it just shows to go you. No, we still don't have a government and it past the year mark now. We have a national administration or caretaker government which is essentially the old government (pre election) minus the party which walked out of the coalition and brought the whole show down. The king, who happens to be German (Goethe Sax Couburg) is becoming increasingly pissed. We have had any number of formators; preformators and informators, essentially people the king has told to go away and sort the problem out and all have hit the same stone wall. Now it looks like he will have to pick somebody to get on with the job but deciding things is not his strong suit. Problem in a nutshell is that the rich Dutch speaking north funds the poor French speaking south. It wasn't always that way round and the French became arrogant always demanding more and more whilst contributing less and less. The have brought down five or six elected governments in a row but this time the Flemish guy with the most votes of any party refused to form a government with the French speakers until all contentious had been resolved which is a rock and hard place story. Now the King has said that if the issue is not resolved by the summer recess he will pick someone and tell them to get on with the job with or without the other lot. Smart money is on the French guy but if the two main Flemish parties refuse to work with him then the system won't fly or they will just do to the French what the French have been dishing out to the north all these years. These sure are interesting times. You are however nearly correct when you say it is the longest time a country has been without a Government. The actual longest time a complex society has existed without an elected government is 332 years. Yeh, that surprised me too. It was in fact the Icelandic Commonwealth which operated what they called the Althing system and ran between 930 to 1262. Details can be found here:
Now if you had been Scandinavian you would have known that :-)
by ours I meant you and I, so our shared president is of course herman achille van rompuy who's belgian. our president here in finland lived in kallio (that's where the franks try to get out) all her life until being elected as our first female president in hmm I think it was 2000. she got out in style.
when taught our assumed place in the world in school we had sweden's era as an empire in the late middle ages highlighted and that's about it. personally I view finnish history and our cultural heritage being more slavic than "scandinavian," but it is a tough view to put out here because of our political history as a bitch between soviet union and western capitalists. after the second world war and until the eighties finns were carefully groomed to identify themselves with the west just enough to not to piss soviet union off while making sure that we never had enough communists in our ranks to "peacefully join soviet union" which was what it had been expecting from us since the bolshevik revolution (what happened between f-land and soviet russian in ww II was very much due to us having 80k nazis in lapland who we had given the permission to do some blitzkrieging up there. poor soviet union was just defending itself).
one of my best friends said some time ago that "I tried to think of a worse country in europe than finland and couldn't come up with anything else than iceland. it is far away and isolated, and some parts of it are under permanent ice." her view on matters is quite affected by ideals of national self-sufficiency, and one other resent amusing thing she's said is "why do finns keep on complaining about the austerity package for greece? finland has been a god damn austerity package for european union since the nineties." she points at all the eu money we are being pumped with in order to have our products, especially agricultural products, be able to compete, in regards to such an important fact for a consumer as price, with foreign goods.
Hi P, Oh that pres, Yeh he's a Belg. Nigel Farage was right, where did he come from, as if we didn't know. He was selected not elected. As the Monty Python boys once said “How did you get to be king, I didn't vote for you”. About a month ago the Belgian unions had a day of action outside the EU building to protest the difference in life standards between the representatives and the represented which elicited the comment from Mijnheer van Rompey “What do these people think we are doing attending these boring meetings all day long if it is not for them”, or some such thing. Ha, I think I could have had a go at that one.
Without looking anything up, promise, I am going to tell you everything I know about Finland. It is made up mainly of pine trees and lakes which sounds very beautiful but I would imagine become boring after a pair dozen years looking at it. Helsinki once hosted the Olympic games but I couldn't tell you the year. I was told that unlike other languages
where you can assimilate a sentence as it is being said, in Finish you have to wait until the sentence is finished in order to know what the other person said. Actually I find that one difficult to believe although it is supposed to be the most difficult of the western languages. It has one of the biggest steel industries In the world in terms of tonnage output per capita of the population or it did about 25 years ago. The national dance is the tango and there are tango singers who go around on a circuit. It recently played the worlds longest film, 10 days from beginning to end. The border with Russia is a double fence with a no man's land in between and goes the whole length of the country from the Baltic to the Arctic. There are notices every 100 metres or so forbidding anyone from firing guns or catapults, throwing stones, calling out or in any way attracting the attention of anyone on the other side of the fence. The Sami's lost a three year legal battle with the government about parking their reindeer in the Lapland forests during the winter, apparently the timber was more important than the people. How am I doing, in all likelihood not one bit of it is true except for the Olympic games and the Samis which I know is true.
finland hosted the olympic games in 1952 which was the same year the western international community also gave us much needed attention and acceptance in granting our girl armi kuusela the title of miss universe. both were definitely political moves meant to tie us to the west during the crucial years after ww II when the cold war began to define european power structures.
historical writings about finns begin from the middle ages, when quite simultaneously from our ruling sweden catholic church and from the east orthodox church began to visit the men living in forests in order to bring them to god. finns were the last group of people converted to christianity in europe. there is stories of finns being very accepting of christian dogma and such when the missionaries were around, but immediately after they left we turned back to worship holy beings squatting in our saunas and wherenot. still today finland has an amazing number of saunas - two per capita.
under the rule of sweden a lot of coastal towns developed from 15th century on, which also meant that our language of government and "ruling class" were swedish speaking. the king of sweden got excited about martin luther back in the day because he realized he could transfer the possessions of the catholic church around sweden's empire to his crown. main social change the protestant reformation brought about was the idea that the bible should be accessible also to people who haven't been professionally trained to master the dead language of latin. naturally, this lead to the development of finnish writing system, which was based on german, latin and swedish. from then on it has developed to become one of the most complex languages in the world, though what you say about it is incorrect. what makes finnish difficult is that we tie prepositions and subjects and a lot of other stuff to the body of nouns and verbs. a simple example would be,
in my house = talo-ssa-ni (talo = a house, ssa = in, ni = my)
from your house = talo-sta-si
into our house = talo-o-mme
and to make it really complex, this is one of the longest words formulated mainly just to exemplify the craziness of our grammar;
epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkäänköhän = I wonder if even with his/her quality of not having been made unorganized.
under the rule of the russian emperor we received autonomy in the beginning of 19th century, which triggered our mainly swedish speaking ruling class from the coastal areas to begin an orchestrated nationalistic formation of "finnish culture," using especially the sphere of art and literature. one of the most influential works was kalevala by elias lönnrot, which is our national epoch.
when the bolshevik revolution broke out finns used the opportunity to announce themselves independent, and that triggered our fast development out of being a third world country. ww II brought along medicine and industry to us, mainly because our strategically crucial location by the baltic sea. f-land fought against soviet russia twice during ww II, and the continuation war we had in 1944 is considered tremendously epic by war fanatics all over the world. 500k finns managed to reclaim back areas lost in the winter war to soviet russia against millions of soviet soldiers. in addition to war machinery the nazis had given us previtin, which translates to amphetamine, and it meant that there were countless finns sitting in pine tree tops for days in a row shooting hundreds of soviets roaming in the snowy forests. finns went quite crazy at the end of their quest to reclaim areas lost in the preceding war, and continued to almost reach st. petersburg in the amphetamine induced mania.
I do not know about steel industry, but f-land has been the birth place or at least the initial implementation spot of many industrial production methods - enzymes for food, machinery for paper production, components for cellular phones. this is not a very common view but I believe many innovations in industry were first "introduced" in finland because we are governed according to an interesting blend of socialism and capitalism, called "social democracy." it is very easy to reach a monopoly status here, legally. in finland, norway and sweden our disrespectful governments hold the monopoly over the sale of alcohol, as an example. two years ago there was a big scandal of finnish politicians taking huge amounts of money from companies and interest groups. it was all played out as being nothing but a "habit" our government has. everything here is very heavily bureaucratically controlled. what friedman once said rings true here - the places with most social freedom tend to be the ones with least economic freedom, and vice versa.
all I know about the border is that it is very well electronically guarded, and yes tango is big here though not really in the capital area I'd say.
Hey P that was really interesting, I will consider myself a bit more educated in a good way. What does the long word mean btw and is English or other languages difficult to learn for someone brought with Finish as their mother tongue? Your English is excellent.
From tomorrow I will be away from the computer for best part of a week, I will catch up with everybody then.
hey nobody, invite over to see my facebook, just posting pictures of Kai and Nar in Krakow, Prague, Berlin, Munich, etc..
taking on water
we sink in a sea of debt
no bailout for us
FB, unlike some european countries I think none of the scandinavian ones dub their tv. I was fluent in english at the age of 14 after a few years of grammar in school and a lot of movies, tv shows and games in english. in general finns speak good english, which has a been compulsory part of our national curriculum since 1964.
the translation for epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkäänköhän in wikipedia was "I wonder if even with his/her quality of not having been made unsystemized," but I might prefer translating it to "I wonder if together with his/her nature of being not made unorganized." use it in a sentence? grammatically possible, but can't think of a proper situation.
one other funny example of our language is "saippuakauppias," which reads the same whichever way read, and means "soap salesman" (with the word salesman lacking the word "man" from it, naturally. in finnish we do not bring out gender grammatically. our he/she is simply "hän," no matter which gender a person may be).
we have manicured front lawns,
empty all summer.
sculpt our utopian yard,
I never go there.
hi noby, just chkn in :)
Ha ha ha, what a fine desultory conversation.
But you know what's weird? I was about to comment on what I viewed as P's not having been made unsystemized when I realised that that was the precise thing she was talking about and that she'd actually used the only word I know in Finnish: epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkäänköhän . How spooky is that? Pretty spooky.
Anyway as you can see it's a pretty useful word and there's not many conversations (even completely unintelligible ones) where you can't lob it in there and find yourself making a useful contribution.
It's like my two words of Italian: sticazzi and patapufete, they being 'what cocks!' and 'ker-plop' respectively. I find that with those two words alone one can appear worldly and wise irrespective of what it is the people you find yourself amongst are talking about.
Otherwise, hey the Schutter. Sorry mate, I don't do twitter or facebook or whatever it is. I refuse. And yes I miss out on whatever it is that people have there. Sorry about that. How was the trip? All done? That would have been nice.
And I'm glad people still take the time to write haiku. To be honest it is the point of the place. Hmm... I think... a new pic shortly.
And I meant to say, 'Ta Johns, lovely'.
Hi everybody, back again. I have already put a few haiku's up and don't want to hog the whole thing for myself. The reason we are kicking our heels around here is because this is where all the interesting people are. Hey nobs, if you put something up on the Church we would not stand around here chatting °-) there again we all understand inspiration is an ephemeral thing. Epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkäänköhän huh, I couldn't help comparing this with the longest word in English (if we ignore those silly words made up for the Sound of Music) antidisestablishmentariansm. which was reportedly invented by Peter Cook. This is only half the length of yours but also contains a double negative to give a forward meaning. Your word deals with someone who is in favour of the system and the English word deals with someone who is in favour of the establishment. Pretty similar huh, a man on a galloping horse might not spot the difference although I don't often manage to slip it into the everyday conversation. Incidentally in English, if you want to be vague about a persons gender you can go into the third person plural even if it doesn't always apply. That's the word 'their', eg “They picked up their things and left”.
Btw around 1990 I almost did business with a guy from Espoo. If that would have worked I might have seen a bit of Finland.
And hey Kikz, write us a haiku, ya big lazy!
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